FEED DROP: The Rosa Parks Memorial Bazaar of Dubious Art and Ideas | Episode 51
From new diss tracks, to hot takes, and even black face: we're back with more controversial art, media and ideas to barter with at the Bazaar in Rosa Parks' honor!
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Trading Controversy: The Rosa Pox Memorial Bazaar
O'Neil: FEED DROP -- -- -- Welcome one. Welcome all to the Rosa Pox Memorial
Bazaar of dubious art and ideas, where we trade in controversy. I am, um, your unethnic, racially
ambiguous shopkeep, here to decide the fate of your racially, politically, and socially dubious art
and ideas. Each of you have been awarded a controversial coin in accordance to your race, gender,
and political assignments. Let's meet our, uh, patrons.
Tyler: Now, my name is Tyler J. Cacara, and I have 900 controversy coin to spend.
Olivia: Hi, I'm Olivia Fumioti. I have 1000 controversy coins. And I have a two for one special on
Drake and Josh episodes.
O'Neil: Hey, my name's O'Neil Henry, your shopkeeper today, and I have 1100 controversy coins. Each
dubious art and idea will be assigned a controversial total by the other patrons, which will be
totaled up against their limit. And if they go over, they can offer up repod rations to lower the
total limit. As a basis for our currency, one free chick fil a chicken sandwich is equal to 100
controversy coin. Let us begin first, Tyler, what's your first controversy?
Tyler: I'll start late.
O'Neil: It's your dubious art idea.
Tyler: I'll start light. Uh, and it's something I mentioned on our pitch episode. I'm gonna start
with the song turning japanese by the vapors.
O'Neil: Okay, great.
Tyler: Now, ostensibly, if I may argue my point, this song is not actually about the japanese
people.
O'Neil: Mhm. Mhm.
Tyler: This is a song about feeling isolated and alone. It's like. It's using the metaphor for
being in a foreign land where you don't speak the language as a metaphor for being sort of alone in
your day to day life, feeling not comfortable, you know? Um, it also is a really sick bridge that
slaps and rips.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: Looking at the lyrics here, um, there really isn't anything.
Tyler: It's really not. There's nothing about Japan.
Olivia: It's literally just the chorus.
Tyler: Yeah. And then it also does the riff on the guitar.
O'Neil: Yes. Which is not Japanese is the only issue we do have a little bit of.
Tyler: That's my point. That's right. This is a light one. This is a light one.
O'Neil: So this is a light one. I will say. Just in sort of a, uh, globalization sort of message,
the Japanese are actually sort of considered the european ish types of, like, eastern politics. So,
you know, there is a little bit of Element where it softens the blow slightly.
Olivia: Again. Okay, so this again, this song was released in 1980. This is around the time of the
japanese tech boom.
O'Neil: Yes.
Tyler: Yeah.
Olivia: You know, japanese media is now starting to cross the ocean here a little bit.
O'Neil: Starting to see the peaks of anime behind the curtain, we start to get.
Olivia: Like, things like Akira and other, you know, things like that before, like the big anime
manga boom of the nineties and two thousands. So, okay, I'm looking at the lyrics, honestly, other
than the beginning.
O'Neil: And you know what? I'm gonna throw out a number here, Liver, and you tell me what you think
I'm gonna say around. I don't think it's terrible. And I think given everything we've talked about
here, I'm gonna say 150.
Olivia: I was gonna say 130 or 125, honestly.
O'Neil: Okay, so let's do 1125.
Olivia: Let's call it even 125, because I feel this, uh. I mean, uh, the riff is sick. There's no
denying how.
Tyler: There's no denying that riff is.
Olivia: There's no denying there is a sort.
O'Neil: Rule of cool, uh, discounts there.
Olivia: All right. Like, a lot of this kind of era of music, especially, like, alt pop, where you
get. Or, like, alt indie pop, where you get, like, new ones, like the B 52s, you get some, like,
weird shit, too, where it's like, rock lobster. I don't know. Like, you know, I think in terms.
Tyler: Of people were just saying shit.
Olivia: Songs that are racist. I don't think this really starts to breach the surface of how bad it
can be.
O'Neil: Okay.
Olivia: Um, I'm not saying that it's. I'm not giving it a complete write off, but I agree that it's
not terrible. I think this is slightly worse than a
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Olivia: sandwich.
O'Neil: Let's do. Yeah, 135. I'm fine with 135. Not terrible. Okay, Liver, what you got?
Olivia: Um, I have for your decisive, uh, eye is John Mulaney's stand up.
O'Neil: Okay. Oh, okay. Interesting.
Tyler: I think that that would be equally creepy is if you were in a subway station at 02:00 in the
morning, and I chased you down, grabbed you, and said, I'm not gonna rape you. I'm a little boy.
Olivia: Yeah. Interesting, because, listen, I have been obsessed with his stand up and his work in
general since I was in high school. Um, very much informs how I tell stories. Even now, um, my
roommate and I still do bits all the time, but he is a cheating, rotten bastard.
O'Neil: Yeah. Yeah.
Olivia: So. And his ex wife, um, Anna Tendler, is releasing a new book called men have called her
crazy, uh, about her divorce with John Mulaney, who, again, said he did not want kids. She wanted
kids. And he was like, no, I don't want kids. And then he went into rehab, met Olivia Munn, got her
pregnant, decided to divorce his wife, Anna, and then, you know, had a kid. With Olivia Munn. So,
yeah, he's not the greatest dude in terms of, like, a. Being a person. Um, and that's not to talk
about, like, any of his addiction stuff. It is simply, like, his dirtbaggery in his relationships.
Um, that has been.
Tyler: Addiction is a disease.
Olivia: Crux on that. It is a disease that is not, like, what's it called?
Tyler: That's not why we're discussing this.
Olivia: Yeah, that's. I don't. That's not why I think John Mulaney's conversely, I think it's
because he's a dirtbag to his ex wife. He pulled a dirt bag move.
O'Neil: I think where the controversy comes in is that in a lot of his stand up, he was a lot of
his. Damn, he's a wife guy referencing. Yes, he was a wife guy. And so that's where. That's where
you lose. That's where you lose a little bit of, uh, value there. So I'm trying to think. I
honestly think, you know, I think he's had a big comeback recently. So I don't know if he's
necessarily the most controversial figure we have. Honestly, I would actually, and I don't know how
you feel about this talent. I would actually put this under our limit for what we have for a basis
because I really don't think, you know, I think I got a walk on the street.
Tyler: I am of the opinion when it comes to celebrity relationships and shit like that, you don't.
You don't know people. Is he probably a bad person? Yeah, but, like, you weren't there, but you
don't just kind of know the relationship story.
O'Neil: Add on the addiction Element to it. I would actually put this at, like, 75. Controversy.
Olivia: Wow.
Tyler: Yeah. I keep this light.
Olivia: Is that per special or. For his entire comedic.
Tyler: I would say we're men.
O'Neil: This might be one that's above our payment.
Tyler: You know what? This one, I don't really know about this one. So, uh, let me call in an
expert, and I'll get back to you. Says, this is our pawn stars moment.
Olivia: Yeah, I know a guy. Okay, great.
O'Neil: But for now, we'll put it at 75 times.
Olivia: Okay. I will go ahead and mark that on my shoe here.
O'Neil: Okay. All right, guys, starting off like Kanye just dropped a diss against Drake. It's very
funny. How much is this going to cost me, guys? Because it's really good. It's really good.
Tyler: I haven't heard it. I gotta look this up. I gotta look it up.
Olivia: I gotta look up Kanye.
Olivia: I gotta look up...
O'Neil: For those who are uninitiated, there has been an ongoing, uh, sort of rap beef, uh, started
between future, uh, metro and, uh, Kendrick and Drake. Um, and then it's just gotten bigger and
bigger and bigger. Some old beef has come back up. Kanye famously dissed Drake in the past, and so
he just released, like, a remix.
Tyler: Wait, no, he released. Okay, so he released a remix of the Kendrick featured diss track.
O'Neil: Yes.
Tyler: That they did.
O'Neil: Yes.
Tyler: Yeah.
Olivia: Because I'm looking at, like.
O'Neil: A remix of future Metros and Kendrick's, uh, like, that discs.
Olivia: Oh, uh, okay.
O'Neil: And it's. It's. It's. It's pretty good. So. So what is this going to cost me here? For
those who are uninitiated about Kanye, he has said some. Some pretty. Pretty terrible stuff. He's
walked some stuff back. It seems like he's in a. He's also in a sort of crash out moment.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: So he has gained some controversy coin just on his Persona along. Um, but I just want this
one track, honestly, I'm not trying to get his whole.
Tyler: Okay, that line doesn't rhyme. Kanye.
Kanye (Recording): Can'T stop, won't stop. I just fucked your bitch in the Sean John tank top she
the bad bitch like she average I treat a bad bitch like a fat bitch and they never let me get money
again on my cat Williams when they get
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Kanye (Recording): funny again.
Kanye (Recording): Yeah, you see they tried to count me out.
Kanye (Recording): I like that. We just hit a number one. We right back 500 down on the bottom 500.
Olivia: I like how there's a lot of yeezy. Yeah, that one. Um. Bang without my goon. Okay.
Tyler: Hearing Olivia say this is obviously mixed, honestly.
Olivia: Okay, here's the thing. The diss track itself, the actual diss isn't honestly that bad.
O'Neil: Yeah, no, I don't think it's. I don't think it's on.
Olivia: You cannot get your lady wet. That seems to be the crime here.
O'Neil: If we're being completely honest. I think the actual song is not controversial at all. The
fact that it is associated with Kanye. Again, I'm starting light here.
Olivia: Kanye. I'm trying to think of Kanye's many sins. Um. Oh, gosh.
Tyler: Okay. Oh, man. O'Neil.
Olivia: It's just this track. Kanye West's discography or just this song?
O'Neil: No, just this song. I am also, I think it's important to note I am Drake's number one
hater. So this is, uh, a boon to me and my people. Uh, and Drake and J. Cole have been on some
light skinned bullshit recently. I don't know if, again, you guys.
Tyler: Have no I know. Bryson caught me up last week, you know?
O'Neil: Okay, good. So you have our light scene correspondent out in there. Out in the field there.
Tyler: Yeah.
O'Neil: So how much is this going to cost me?
Tyler: Oh, and this is this one. Okay, hang basing it on what we have so far. The media itself
isn't bad, much like John Mulaney, but the, uh. But, uh, the person, the impetus, the vibes.
O'Neil: Mhm.
Tyler: Are horrific.
Olivia: Has he been putting out a lot of music recently?
O'Neil: No, not really. Okay, so he was just jumping in on this?
Tyler: No, he's mostly been, like, shutting down his whack ass school.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: Or selling things for $20 on his website.
Tyler: Or, like, shouting out Hitler.
O'Neil: Well, yeah, not as recently, but.
Olivia: Oh, well, he did it for a while, though, and, like, really loudly.
Tyler: All right, I'm gonna have to go with. Tell me how you feel about this, Olivia. I'm gonna
give. I'm gonna have to give it, like, 200.
Olivia: I was gonna say 300. Do you wanna split it and say 250?
Tyler: Yeah, uh, let's do that. 250. Cause here's the thing. Compared to turning japanese, a mostly
harmless song by a mostly harmless one hit wonder band.
O'Neil: Mm hmm.
Tyler: Like, there's no but. Like, this song...
Olivia: Kanye is prolific.
Olivia: And, (yeah) this is built on the. The sort of his reputation that he has, for better or
worse, built himself. Uh, so I will say 250.
Tyler: All right.
O'Neil: 250.
Olivia: Controversy coins started off strong, like that remix.
O'Neil: All right, let's go to the next one.
Tyler: All right. It's me.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: Yep.
Tyler: I'll keep it on the theme of music while we're here. I'll just knock it out of the way.
David Bowie's China girl.
David Bowie (Recording): I stumble into town just like a sacred cow visions of swastikas
in my.
David Bowie (Recording): Head bless for everyone.
David Bowie (Recording): Into the way.
David Bowie (Recording): Of my eyes.
O'Neil: All right...
Tyler: Now...
Olivia: The --
Olivia: -- song that launched a thousand chips.
Tyler: Now, this song beats ass in.
Olivia: Okay. I've actually never heard it, so let me. Actually, I'm gonna.
Tyler: I'm gonna need you to hear it. Cause Bowie is. I, uh, think the kids would describe him as
selling cunt on this song.
Olivia: Yes, I will be the judge of that.
Tyler: That's the energy he's bringing.
O'Neil: Okay, Tyler, I don't know about this one, bud. This one's rough. I'm also looking at the
music video.
Olivia: Yeah, I am watching the music video.
Tyler: Listen to the guitar Solo at the end, though.
O'Neil: Oh, I stumble into town just like some sacred cow visions of swastikas in my head plans for
everyone it's in the white of my eyes this is rough.
Olivia: My God, why is he touching that woman's face?
Tyler: That's his girlfriend. Okay, so here's the backstory of this song.
O'Neil: Yes. Give us context.
Tyler: This song was written in 1977 while David Bowie was living in Berlin, Germany.
Olivia: Okay.
Tyler: Uh, he was in the middle of his thin white duke era. Uh, this one came out on let's dance,
which is a much less problematic album than his thin White Duke era albums.
But he was dating, uh, a chinese supermodel at the time.
Olivia: Oh, God.
Tyler: And he was like. And the song is about how she
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Tyler: was living with him in Germany. And he felt that by dating her, he was somehow, uh,
destroying her Culture. Like, she's. Like she was getting more. He felt like she was being more
westernized every day and he felt weird about it. So that's what this song's about. But listen,
skip ahead to the guitar Solo, though.
O'Neil: Yeah. Okay, this is where.
Olivia: I'm not skipping a second of this because there's been some insane shit.
O'Neil: There's also some insane imagery in this music video. Uh, okay, Tyler, let's do this. First
off, do you want the music and the music video?
Tyler: I don't want the music video. Although the music video is very funny.
O'Neil: Okay.
Tyler: There's like a lot of.
O'Neil: We could chop off a little bit from. Just a tinge from the. From the music video because
that music video.
Tyler: Just skip to 327 and listen to guitar Solo.
O'Neil: So this is where this is also gonna be an issue, Tyler, is because. Not to go for wonder
bread, but I don't. I'm not the biggest, uh, bowie guy. And I don't particularly, uh,
enjoy that music, but I know that people do. So I'm not gonna give you a.
Olivia: Full, very, uh, good guitar Solo, doc, there.
O'Neil: But I can't fully, in my own evaluation of this art, give you the full value of Bowie.
Olivia: Okay? That was just a lot of making out that I'm not necessarily in love with.
Tyler: Listen, I don't want the music video. I don't want the music video.
Olivia: Okay.
O'Neil: Okay.
Olivia: Okay.
O'Neil: All right, man.
O'Neil: But these lyrics are rough.
Olivia: ....feeling tragic. Like I'm Marlon Brando.
O'Neil: And this sort of concept is also rough.
Tyler: Yeah.
O'Neil: The concept of him, you know, saying that he can't date interracially or else
destroy.
Tyler: Now, might I tell you why this song came out seven years after he wrote it? He wrote it with
Iggy Pop, a much more problematic song. The singer songwriter and Iggy Pop released it in 1978.
Now, in 1983, iggy Pop was going through a bit of a hard financial times.
Olivia: Yeah.
Tyler: So David Bowie put this song re released this song on his album so that the album sales
would. He would get a kickback. His friend would get a kickback.
Olivia: Okay. So at the risk of his own reputation, he did write it.
Tyler: He did write this.
Olivia: He did write it. Okay.
Tyler: It wasn't originally his release, so.
Olivia: Iggy. Okay.
O'Neil: Poof. Okay, Tyler, uh, this is a rough one. I think we should listen.
Tyler: He's playing a bad guy in the song. Like he's saying I'm a bad person.
O'Neil: But even the conceit of it, tyler, is a little rough. Olivia, I don't know how you're
feeling, but I'm feeling.
Tyler: It's a little duty.
Olivia: 400S? Yeah.
O'Neil: 450 even.
Olivia: I was saying around 400. Yeah, this one's pretty rough.
O'Neil: 424. 20.
Olivia: We can put 424.2.
O'Neil: 420 for David Bowie, because I do.
Olivia: Like David Bowie, but, uh, I know some of his stuff is quis table, but this looks quiet,
like. Sorry. If we play golden years, that price is going to go down significantly. Every time I
listen to that one song, if I listen to magic dance, forget it. It's going down.
O'Neil: And I'm sort of. And that's why I'm sort of the objective viewer of this, because I still
love it.
Olivia: I do want to listen to golden ears so badly.
O'Neil: Keep it moving. Okay, Olivia, what's your.
Olivia: Okay, this one is good. This is an idea. This is an action. And this is the act of stealing
silverware from restaurants.
O'Neil: This one's rough. Olivia. This one's rough. Okay. Give us your justification for this one's
rough.
Olivia: This is in my jeans. Okay. My dad.
Tyler: You keep them in the back pocket of your jeans when you walk out.
O'Neil: In the back pocket of your jeans.
Olivia: No. No. Yes. That's a classic, but no. So there was once a time where. Cause my dad's
trying to find the perfect spoon. It's normally just the spoon. Okay. But there was one time where
my dad was on vacation, and he was having dinner on the cape, and he, uh, was like, I like this
whole set. So he put it up his sleeve, and so as he's walking out, he ran into somebody that he
knew, and they were like, Michael, how the hell are you? And he grabbed his wrist and was like,
it's great. How are you? So they couldn't. So none of the silver would come flying out of his
sleeve when he was shaking this guy's hand.
Tyler: How old is he?
O'Neil: Dad? Oh, my God.
Olivia: He was in his late, uh, twenties, early thirties, I think.
O'Neil: Oh, so it's straight up in your jeans. Wow.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: This is great.
Olivia: It's in my jeans. Yeah, no, it's fully in my jeans. And the only reason that I brought this
up. Cause I did this in the last year and a half, I have not done it in that year and a half, but I
was at a restaurant in. I was at a restaurant in Maine with my family. And my sister is. Thinks
that teeny, tiny things are the funniest thing in the whole wide world.
And at this restaurant, they had the teeniest, tiniest salt and pepper shakers that you ever did
see. They're so fucking small. Like, it's comical how small these things
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Olivia: were. And so my dad and I had both independently decided, like, not conferencing with each
other, to each grab a set of the salt and pepper shakers.
O'Neil: Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Olivia: So as my dad was giving my sister his pilfered set of salt and pepper shakers, I was like,
oh, she's distracted. And slid them into her pocket. So by the time she got to her car, she had two
sets of salt pepper shakers.
O'Neil: Oh, wow.
Tyler: Okay. All right, all right.
O'Neil: Um, Tyler, I know you have a. Okay, so, Tyler, you will have a ....
Olivia: This is why I knew that this --
Olivia: -- is going to be a thing that Tyler was going to hate about.
O'Neil: I'm feeling in my, uh, heart right now, like, 800. I don't know how in my heart.
Tyler: I hate this, because this is, in actuality, who gives a shit?
O'Neil: Okay, but okay. Okay. Let's. Let's do this first.
Tyler: You know what I mean? Not. Not the actual monitor
O'Neil: And the fact --
O'Neil: -- that you know, you're stealing from restaurants. Not necessarily. Necessarily like, uh,
a, uh, McDonald's, uh, or something.
Tyler: How do you feel about stealing from the self checkout aisle at whole foods or whatever?
O'Neil: I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. If it's a big. If it's a big, like, store, I
don't care. Especially at the self checkout aisle where they're taking away things.
Olivia: I should say this was a very fancy restaurant.
Tyler: Then why is this different?
O'Neil: Those companies have certain, uh, insurances and things. Especially for the self checkouts
now, where it's all write offs. It's all write offs. They're getting tax write offs for this. This
is like, especially the. The mini salt shaker. Those are like. That's gonna be labor. That's gonna
be somebody's. That's gonna be a pain in the ass for somebody. I'm feeling. I'm feeling real
certain way.
Olivia: I'm sure they have, like, a ton of them. Like, literally, a fuckload they have to expect.
O'Neil: Okay, here's the thing. I'm sort of a, uh. What's it called? Not utopian. Utilitarian in my
philosophy. So it's, if one person does it, then everybody should be allowed to do it. And that's
how I'm assigning the controversy--
O'Neil: -- coin value.
Olivia: Okay, so.
Olivia: Jesus Christ. Did you bring enough spoons for the whole class?
O'Neil: Yes, exactly. Did you bring enough spoons for the class? Um, so I'm still gonna hold high,
but, Tyler, I wanna. I wanna hear how you're feeling about it.
Tyler: As a rest. As a longtime restaurant employee. It's like, that's the thing. As an employee, I
could really give a shit. But, like, I mean, that is like, eventually, if they. Steve, if you steal
enough of them, the manager be like, ah, shit, I'll have to order some
more and then order some more. I don't know. It's like I. No one's losing their.
Olivia: And again, this isn't something that I do every time I go out. I'm not a superwear flatware
kleptomaniac. Yeah, that would be an entirely different thing. This is like once every three years,
a spoon comes home with me. And I don't do it often. Literally, I've done it a handful of times.
O'Neil: All right, Tyler, give me. Give me a value, and we can haggle.
Tyler: 300.
O'Neil: 300. Wow. Okay.
Tyler: I don't even have to think. It is.
O'Neil: There is something that you are stealing from potentially small businesses, and there's
also that.
Olivia: There is that.
Tyler: There is your stealing from small businesses and restaurants do work on extremely thin
margins, so there is that.
O'Neil: That's sort of where I'm getting at. It's like you're messing with. Olivia's turned over
six restaurants just from her addiction.
Olivia: It's in my jeans.
O'Neil: I will meet you at. I don't know if I can go lower than 500. Tyler, this is.
Olivia: I can't believe this.
Tyler: I don't think it deserves 500. Uh, but if you.
O'Neil: 475.
Olivia: China girl.
Tyler: You're saying, um, this is better than. This is worse than China girl? O'Neil.
O'Neil: Yes.
Tyler: All right.
O'Neil: You guys don't think so? Wow. This is insane.
Olivia: No, I thought this was gonna be.
Tyler: Like, you are actually doing harm. Like, me listening to China.
O'Neil: Like, you're not doing harm by listening to China girl. It's just controversial.
O'Neil: You're doing harm here.
Tyler: You know what? I'll give it. I'll give you, uh. Yeah, you know what? I'll give you,
like, I'll give you 475.
O'Neil: Okay. 475.
Olivia: This isn't something I like to do. It's just something that does happen.
O'Neil: It's a compulsion. I get it.
Tyler: It's an addiction.
O'Neil: All right, let me get my second one here.
Olivia: I'm kind of in shock right now. That's so funny. Holy shit. I was gonna think that was
eating.
O'Neil: At McDonald's right now. Yeah, I know. It's bad.
Olivia: It's one of those who don't know boycott ones. It's one of the key.
Olivia: Target boy
Tyler: McDonald's chicken with fries on the weekends bad.
Olivia: They're sorry. It's one of the key boycotts. And it's working too, is the thing.
O'Neil: It's working. And that's sort of the issue, but. Okay, now, to be fair, I have a lot of
McDonald's points from previous. So every time I'm going, I'm spending 3000, 4000
McDonald's points and getting a free item.
Olivia: That's bad. That makes it better.
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O'Neil: Okay.
Olivia: But also, you are still giving money that they gave you by spending money there.
Tyler: It's also.
O'Neil: Well, no, because the points do expire. That's the thing. So I do need to spend those
points or else they just have free money from my previous, uh, thing. So those points you need to
get spent. So I'm going to. I'm going to add spending points.
Tyler: I will also say it's not like those employees get tips, so you don't have to worry about,
like. Oh, man. Like, think of all the employees that are going to, you know, not make any money if
you don't go.
O'Neil: That's true. That is true. They are getting paid hourly. So, uh, what are we feeling? How
are we feeling about this?
Olivia: I can understand it from a, like, there's nothing else open and I need to feed myself, kind
of.
O'Neil: That's usually the case.
Olivia: But if you have another option that is reasonable, there's no reason you should be
patronizing the golden arches, in my opinion.
O'Neil: Oh, I don't know if we outlined this, but McDonald's has been supporting the genocide in
Palestine.
Tyler: How specifically are they doing that? Can I ask that question?
Olivia: They are giving. They are food to the IDF.
O'Neil: And the IDF, they supporting.
Olivia: Straight up Israeli.
O'Neil: Has always been.
Olivia: Also been bad. Always been bad.
O'Neil: Always.
Olivia: And killing Americans, uh, to start.
O'Neil: But, like, just give me a number. Give me a number, Olivia.
Tyler: I'm gonna let you take this one. Cause I feel out of my depth here.
Olivia: I feel like I'm also a little skewed from the whole silverware thing.
Tyler: He is technically doing harm, so I'm gonna. It's somewhere at least in the silverware zone,
right?
Olivia: Yeah. I'm gonna put it as five.
O'Neil: Well, hold on. Uh, don't forget, our base thing is that chick fil a getting a free sandwich
from chick fil a is 100% free sandwich.
Olivia: Okay, so I'd put this maybe at, like, 400, then.
O'Neil: 400.
Tyler: Yeah, that's true. A free sandwich. But chick fil a is just as bad as McDonald's.
Olivia: But. And if you're using.
O'Neil: I wouldn't say chick fil A is as. I mean, I wouldn't say McDonald's is as bad as chicken.
Olivia: Internationally.
Tyler: What?
Olivia: And how much? Because they have.
Tyler: Oh, yeah, I guess McDonald's has more cloud.
Olivia: They have more. Yeah, they have more reach.
Tyler: I don't know...
O'Neil: when you say that my impact is actually lower then.
Olivia: Well, so, okay, you have free sandwich versus using points at McDonald's. You're still
spending money, but you're.
Tyler: No, you're not spending money, though. You've. You're using money you've already spent,
hypothetically, before all this stuff happens.
Olivia: Also, unless you're just going to redeem the points, get a frosty, get the fuck out of
there.
Tyler: No, I don't think you understand how many points O'Neil has.
O'Neil: I have.
Tyler: He can buy an entire meal with points.
O'Neil: Yes.
Olivia: So, okay, O'Neil, if you are exclusively using points to finance these meals, uh, 100 the
base. But if you spend any additional money at McDonald's.
Tyler: Yeah, that's what I was about to say.
Olivia: 500 immediately.
O'Neil: That seems like a little high. That seems like our scale has been missing.
Tyler: Maybe I'll save a take for my next one, but that seems a little higher.
Olivia: Yeah, considerably. To either 200 or 300. If you are spending, like, to buy a full meal at
Mickey D's, I never know.
O'Neil: Okay, that's the other thing. If I ever go to McDonald's, I'm never buying a full meal.
It's usually like, I'll buy a thing and then a supplement, or I'll use.
Tyler: One of their, like, deal packages. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
O'Neil: Deal packages.
Tyler: If I'm never spending more than $5 at McDonald's, if I'm spending more than $5 McDonald's,
something has gone horribly wrong.
O'Neil: Something's gone bad.
Olivia: Okay, so I will say my spending points is 100, but also, you did rack them up and spend
money there to earn those points.
Tyler: Well, that was. But those. That could have been a year ago.
Olivia: All right.
O'Neil: Yeah, it was definitely. It's been a while. All right, cool.
Olivia: Also, uh, free Palestine. I don't know. Just the couple.
Tyler: No, I don't disagree. I don't disagree with that.
O'Neil: All right, cool. Tyler, give us your next one.
Tyler: I'll do Formula one now. I'll do Formula one now. I'll save my spiciest take for the end.
Olivia: I am partial to it.
O'Neil: Give us the context here. Um, european racist. Get that.
Tyler: Well, not necessarily. I mean, partial, I guess. So, Formula One, it's in that NASCAR game.
And all high level motorsports, for the most part, are a sport for the rich. Everyone jokes about
golf or whatever being a rich people sport. But like, it's actually, motorsports is actually the
most rich people sport. And Formula one is the richest of all rich, rich people motorsports.
Olivia: Yep.
Tyler: There are drivers on the. On the grid who are only on the grid because they can afford to be
on the grid. Very, very specifically. Um, there are probably two or three drivers on the grid that
were from working class households. Um. Um. So that's definitely problematic. And now let's get
into the thing that's probably the most
problematic is that they are basically entirely funded by saudi oil money.
O'Neil: I did not know this.
Tyler: Yeah, it's basically funded entirely. It's like the amount
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Tyler: of rubber and oil they use, it's like, it's all funded by blood, blood oil and blend blood
blood rubber. It's like.
O'Neil: I like this.
Tyler: It's not great.
Olivia: A lot of the corporate sponsors are also not great.
Tyler: Yeah, it's like Mercedes is sponsored by Petronas, Saudi Oil company. Aston Martin is
sponsored by Aramco, the national Saudi Oil Fund.
O'Neil: Um, okay. Uh, now let's get into what you're actually engaging with Formula one. Are you
just watching? Are you paying to go to events? Are you paying for merch?
Tyler: I have paid for merch.
Olivia: Oh, pay the f one streaming service to watch the race.
O'Neil: You're paying a specific subscription, Olivia.
Tyler: Yeah, this is a shared one with me and Olivia, by the way.
Olivia: Yeah, yeah, cuz I. I don't pay.
Tyler: For the streaming service. I watch it on my dad's YouTube tv.
O'Neil: I feel like there is a conflict of interest here, Olivia. I don't think you can help me
out.
Olivia: I know, I know. Imbalance on this one. Yeah.
Tyler: The judge, Jerry. Executioner of the synonym.
O'Neil: Yeah. How much is the subscription there?
Olivia: So it is for ad free and I get to watch all the races live. It's $12 a month.
O'Neil: And that you're okay. M. And this. Well, okay, so I can't count yours. This should be one
of yours, but I'm not gonna count it for yours. This is only Tyler. So, Tyler, you're paying $6 a
month for streaming plus. Well, now you're giving $12 is the problem, but. And then how much are
you spending on, uh, merch?
Tyler: Not that much. I bought like $145 hoodie on sale.
Olivia: You have the Williams shirt, but the.
Tyler: Williams shirt bought from Etsy. So that one's just supporting way money away from. That's
not an official business. You know, um, I went to an Indycar race yesterday, but that's a different
series. And. But they're like sponsored by, like, O'Reilly's, uh, auto parts. They're a much
smaller thing. They're still bad. It's still bad for the environment.
That's the other thing. Horrible for the environment. Not necessarily the races, but the circus
that travels all over the world. Very.
Olivia: What they've been doing is that they've been changing their, like, race schedule to fit,
like, the little, uh, the least amount of travel between races as possible. So, like, they reduce
their freight emissions.
Tyler: They also, I mean, they're also, they've changed. The cars are literally hybrids now. Like,
they. For a while. Yeah, they're electric and, ah, they've been moving more towards, uh, electric.
Yeah.
O'Neil: Okay. I'm going to say 300.
Olivia: 300? Okay. Wow. Okay.
Tyler: Okay, I'll take that.
O'Neil: I'm gonna say 300. I don't think you, you're not really. You're not really. So, I mean, the
$12 a month is rough, but other than that, you're not really supporting them all that much.
Olivia: Yeah, no. Any, uh, merch I was gonna buy from them anyway, because again, it's stupid
expensive.
Tyler: You gotta go on etsy. Also, the gear on Etsy, way better than the official gear is all you
gotta trash. Like soccer. Soccer jerseys is disgusting.
O'Neil: I do hate the European, but, you know, we don't have to get. That's my own personal. That's
my own baggage. Uh, Liver, give us your next phenomenal, uh.
Olivia: Okay, my next one. I don't know how I live. Laugh, love this. I don't know if this is the
one I want to do.
O'Neil: Okay, if this is your next one, this is not controversial at all.
Tyler: No.
Olivia: I'm gonna actually switch out this one for this one. Uh, Don McLean as a musical artist for
the songs Vincent and American Pie.
Don McLean (Recording): Bye bye Miss american pie drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
and them good old boys were drinking whiskey and rye singing this'll be the day that I die.
Don McLean (Recording): This'Ll.
Don McLean (Recording): Be the day that I die.
Olivia: Don McLean bad.
Tyler: I don't know anything about this guy.
O'Neil: I don't know anything about him. Give us. Enlighten us.
Olivia: Dom McLain. Bad dude.
Tyler: I know. American pie.
Olivia: American pie and Vinson. Genuinely a cultural zeitgeist kind of thing. Uh, Vincent is one
of the most devastating songs I've ever heard in my entire life. Uh, but he beat the shit out of
his wife and daughter.
O'Neil: Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm serious now.
Olivia: And nobody knew anything about it. The reason I know about this is because my friend works
for a publisher who was going to publish his autobiography, and then all this shit came out about
him and they canceled the book deal.
O'Neil: Damn.
Olivia: So it went to a different publishing House.
O'Neil: Yeah. And this is one where you are supporting the artist, even if you're not.
Olivia: Um, yeah, and I'm really only listening to, like, those two songs because I don't really
care about anything else. But those two songs are deeply, deeply.
Tyler: Might I make a suggestion?
Olivia: Yes.
Tyler: Could you just listen?
Olivia: Listen to covers?
Tyler: No, no, not just covers, but could you listen to weird Al Yankovic's cover, uh, of american
pie? That is how I started.
Olivia: I do love that song.
Tyler: Um, time ago,
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Tyler: in a galaxy far.
Olivia: Away, far away, Naboo was under an attack. Okay. Like, I know, but, like, I. American pie
is just so. Fucking Liver needs this.
O'Neil: Liver needs this. So this is.
Olivia: Vincent is, like, deeply. Is deeply impactful to me.
Tyler: This feels like in the Kanye zone. Like, we gave Kanye 250. This feels like a 250, you know,
like, not a controversial song, but a controversial artist. Similarly amounts of controversial, I'd
say.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: Okay.
O'Neil: Yeah. No, no, actually, the recency and everything. All. All tracks, so 250. Great, moving
on. My number three, Jonathan major's movies.
Female (Recording): And just who are you?
Jonathan Major (Recording): I've been dubbed many names by many people.
Jonathan Major (Recording): A ruler, a conqueror.
Tyler: How we doing?
Tyler: Which ones?
Olivia: Jonathan majors.
O'Neil: Um, I only really care about Creed three and I guess movies and tv. Creed
three, Loki and, uh, just his general MCU stuff. Oh, and last black man in San Francisco.
Tyler: Yeah, I was gonna say that's the, like. That's the big one. Um.
Olivia: Okay, hold on. I'm going to the New York Times, which, again, problematic. We'll see. AP
news might be better.
O'Neil: Oh, so for those who don't know, uh, about Jonathan majors, he was, uh, recently convicted
for domestic abuse, and he.
Tyler: As far as we can tell, that's the only incident. Yes, yes.
O'Neil: And I'm not gonna.
Tyler: Yeah, let's not. Let's not wait into that.
O'Neil: It has been disputed, but as all of those usually are disputed, I really want.
Tyler: Look, I'm kind of with you here. Cause I do really want to see magazine dreams, which no one
will ever see now.
O'Neil: No, it's never coming out. But, uh, as an actor and also as an advocate, he was pretty
important. And it really sucks that we lost him. Um, but, um, I, ah, am at your mercy.
Olivia: Apparently it's his ex girlfriend and a couple of other women.
Tyler: Oh, okay. Other women.
O'Neil: Okay. Well, then, yeah.
Olivia: Like, dating back to, like, 2013 at Yale.
Tyler: Like I said, this is, uh, sort of in that zone, I think, like a problematic figure in
things. Well, that's the other thing is movies, and that's my thing in particular with movies, is
so many people work on them that to destroy them because of one figure entirely, like, obviously
you have to recommend that, but to, uh, destroy them because of one figure entirely feels unfair to
the hundreds of people who worked on those projects.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: And to be fair, like, he's just the actor in them, so he's not like the director who's
getting the full checks from them. He is getting, obviously, residues, but, yeah.
Tyler: Definitely gets it definitely costs something. But, yeah, I think it might be in that 250
zone. Right, Olivia? Is that what we're thinking?
Olivia: Yeah, I think so.
O'Neil: Okay. Uh, is there any room for haggling as far as the importance of last black man in San
Francisco?
Tyler: That this is for the MCU stuff? Because that stuff is trash. If you want to watch that
stuff, that stuff is not very good for the most part.
O'Neil: Yeah, you know what? That's. That's right.
Tyler: With the exception of Loki season one.
O'Neil: Like, I'll take my 250.
Tyler: If you're like, man, I really want to see Ant man quantum mania. I'd be like.
O'Neil: If I cut out ant man quantum media. But he does pee. He pieces up Paul Rudd so bad. It's so
funny. He pieces him the fuck up. Uh, if I. But if I cut out ant man quantumania, can I bring down
the cost a little bit?
Olivia: Um, what do we say? 250? Maybe 225? 200?
Tyler: Yeah.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: 225?
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: Okay, I'll cut out. No, no, Ant man.
Olivia: No, Ant man. Michael Douglas. Get out of here.
O'Neil: Guys, we're all going over. All right, uh, Tyler, give us your. Give us your fourth one.
Tyler: I want to watch kill Bill. That's the only Tarantino movies I haven't seen. I don't want to
watch kill Bill one and two.
O'Neil: You haven't seen them yet?
Tyler: No, I'll just. The only Tarantino movies I haven't seen. I've seen all the other ones.
O'Neil: I don't even know if this breaks our thresh. Like, as far as Quentin Tarantino movies.
These are probably some of the least problematic ones.
Tyler: Okay.
Olivia: Just thinking about the impact that it had on Uma Thurman as, like, she got so fucked up
during these movies. During the film.
Tyler: Yeah, they really early was bad for Uma Thurman.
Olivia: That was so, like, injured and, like, did not get care afterwards because they're like,
yeah, walk it off. Like, they literally, like, simulated a car accident. And they were like, okay,
walk it off. Like, and she, like, really hurt herself and, like, really impacted her ability to do.
O'Neil: Let me look up this part of the controversy, uh, because from what I understand, you know,
kill Bill was a, uh, standard production.
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O'Neil: Was that. Oh, but was that a Weinstein company production?
Olivia: I don't know.
O'Neil: Uh, let me do. Let me do a little bit.
Tyler: I'm doing research. Oh, distributed by Miramax.
O'Neil: Yeah, that's. That's a miramax. Okay. Okay. So here's where we're getting.
Tyler: But if we can't watch any Miramax films, that's every miramax.
O'Neil: I'm just adding a cost to it. I'm just adding another cost to it. I understand. I
understand.
Olivia: Yeah. So I'm, um.
O'Neil: I really don't think this is that controversial. Like, uh, you could poll pretty much
anyone and be like, kill Bill is not as far as Quentin Tarantino. Even in the Quentin Tarantino
like space. It's not that controversial.
Olivia: I'll say one kills me hearing about. I would put this around 200 just because of how
permanent the issues were that Uma Thurman sustained after filming this. And, like, Tarantino and
Harvey Weinstein, both of whom said they basically were, like, abandoned her, like, okay, good
luck. And Weinstein also did assault her. Um, where I think that the whole mix of that is just a
cocktail for, like, maybe that's just the female rage in me a little bit. Um, but I would put this
a little bit higher than, like, hundreds.
Tyler: Listen, if we're allowed to knock John Melania down, you're allowed to knock kill bill up a
notch. I know.
O'Neil: That's fair.
Olivia: You know what?
O'Neil: Yeah, that's fair. Uh, do you wanna go full 200 or did you wanna.
Olivia: I'll say 200. Yeah.
O'Neil: Okay.
Olivia: Yeah, I just. I can't get past that.
Tyler: I don't know. It's fair. I feel like it's less bad than Kanye, but worse than a chicken
sandwich.
Olivia: In Hollywood trying to take advantage of a young, soon to be Hollywood superstar.
O'Neil: Tyler, that was yours. Liver number four.
Olivia: Phenomenal. Um, John Hughes films, 16 candles specifically.
John Hughes (Recording): I'll take a piece of any time I want. I got Carolyn in the bedroom right
now, passed out cold. I could violate her ten different ways if I wanted to.
O'Neil: Now, I don't know this one. Can you elucidate us?
Tyler: I don't know. It's controversial.
O'Neil: What's the controversy?
Olivia: Pretty fucking bad.
Tyler: An 18 year old.
O'Neil: This is the one from the 18. The guy has to go undercover. Is this the one where the guy
goes undercover?
Tyler: No, this one is where it's basically just a birth. It's just a comedy. Nothing really
happens. There's not a lot of plot.
Olivia: No, nothing actually happens. But, okay, I will tell you the controversy.
Tyler: An 18 year old kisses a 15 year old at the end as, like, a.
Olivia: That's.
O'Neil: That's rough.
Olivia: That's not even the worst part.
O'Neil: Oh, what's the worst part?
Tyler: I've not seen this in so long.
Olivia: So the character. There's a character, uh, he's like the built in comedy character.
His character's name is long Duck Dong.
Tyler: Duck Dong? Yeah, I forget about long Duck dong.
Olivia: And the character is played by, uh, a Chinese, uh, he's chinese american, but he doesn't
have an accent. He did an affected accent for the movie for laughs, and got the part for it. So he
has this insane caricature voice that he's doing.
Tyler: No more yankee my wanky.
O'Neil: The dongle needs food. Oh, my God. All right. This is where the money gets made. The
bazaar's making money today.
Olivia: It's really bad. So there's that, and then there's also a, like, House party. There's,
like, a whole party going on. And, um, Michael Schofling's character, Jake, and his girlfriend,
Carolyn, she passes out drunk at the party after she invites everyone over to his parents House,
and they trash the place. And so she passes out drunk. Uh, and basically, Jake is like, hey,
freshman, if you tell me the name of Molly Ringwald's character and where I can find her, because I
have a pair of her underwear that you gave me, uh, I'll let you go home with my unconscious
girlfriend.
Tyler: I forgot about that. Yeah, well, he was going to drive her home. He's like, I need to go
talk to the girl I like.
Olivia: Yeah, he gives.
Tyler: I need you to drive my conscious drunk girlfriend home.
Olivia: Yeah, there's a line. Yeah, no, it's. No, it's bad. And, like, why do you.
O'Neil: Why do you need this?
Olivia: It's a movie that I, like, grew up with and, like, my family.
Tyler: It is funny.
Olivia: There's a lot of lines, and, like, the wedding stuff was very, like, funny when, like, my
sister and my brother were getting married. And, like, it just is very chaotic and just like, the
way that. I don't know. It's just. Wong duck dong is very.
Tyler: One of the most iconic radio, uh, DJ jock jam drops of all time. When he goes, oh, sexy
girlfriend. Have you ever heard that? People play that on the radio, and they hit the button and
it's like, yeah. So there you go. He's got that going for him.
O'Neil: Okay. Totaling everything, including. I know that 16k candles is important. I just didn't
know all this shit about it. Uh, totaling everything. I'm gonna say 275.
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O'Neil: I don't know how you...
Olivia: Really?
Tyler: Yeah, it's 275.
Olivia: It's just like.
Tyler: It's like general eighties bad. It's not like, in particular bad.
Olivia: One in one package. Okay, so still.
O'Neil: Definitely not. I still think stealing silver work should be higher.
Tyler: You're not doing by watching. It's the same as you're not doing harm.
O'Neil: And it's just controversy, honestly.
Tyler: Wait, hang on. If. Hang on. China girl got a way worse score than this.
Olivia: Yeah, exactly.
Tyler: Um, the same thing.
Olivia: Exactly. It's worse than China girl.
O'Neil: That's fair. That's fair.
Olivia: That's why it is this high up on my list. There's one movie that ranks higher than this.
O'Neil: Hmm. Yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right. Three. 5353.
Tyler: Hundred.
O'Neil: 5350. Okay, 350.
Olivia: I accept that.
O'Neil: Yeah, long duck dong's rough. If you make a cut without that, then maybe we could talk. But
no.
Tyler: Even then, Olivia, how do you feel about the lion? In which long duck dong iconically says,
no more yankee my wanky. The donger need food.
Olivia: Yeah, that's. Yeah. Um, there's a line specifically that. So, again, my niece and I have
bunk beds when I go to my parents House now. And there's a line that the younger brother says. He
goes, I don't know what the hell you're bitching about. I'm sleeping under. And then uses a slur. A
chinese specific slur named after a duck's dork. And so occasionally we. That one gets thrown
around the House without the slur.
O'Neil: All right, let's keep on plowing through this. My number four is, uh, an idea. It's not a
media. It's an idea.
Tyler: Hit us.
O'Neil: I have screened this to my girlfriend. Uh, she has agreed with me somewhat. But I bring
this idea in terms of controversy. This is gonna be. This is pure controversy. Coin. Asian people
equal white people in terms of privilege.
Olivia: Privilege. Um, okay, so, like, this is a designed thing. Right.
O'Neil: I know the model minority, this things, but specifically over here in the west coast, I've
seen how pervasive it is.
Olivia: So in terms of, like,
O'Neil: how some.
O'Neil: People get judged versus other people get judged, how some people get classified versus
other people get classified, how they interact with specifically black people, I've seen it. And,
uh, I would also say Latinx people. This is a controversial take, but is it a take that I see
what's.
Olivia: There's considerably less prejudice against asian people on the west coast. Are you saying.
Is that what you're saying? In terms of levels of.
O'Neil: In terms of privilege?
Olivia: Okay.
Tyler: We're gonna have to call it an expert, man. Uh, Olivia, I appreciate you trying to suss this
one out. Think we can put a price on this one? I think this one isn't for sale at the bazaar today.
I gotta be real with you.
Olivia: Yeah, yeah. I'm not 100 m percent sure, like, this is the idea, but, like, I don't know.
And this is something that you believe? Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Um. I don't know
how the. I mean, obviously, like, thing.
Tyler: I don't know. I don't know what price to put on this.
Olivia: Yeah. Like, I don't. I don't know. That's like, mark, market price is what we're gonna
have. We need, like, a different appraiser to come and do this.
Tyler: Is mkT. Uh, market? Yeah, yeah. We're gonna need. I'm gonna need. This is the one where it's
actually like, hey, we're gonna need to bring in an expert here. I've got a friend down at the, uh,
women's museum.
O'Neil: Now, I don't specifically, just to make sure that my take isn't being misconstrued. I don't
specifically mean because there is like, obviously there's race and, uh, ethnicity politics within
the asian community. So I'm not saying that as like, a broader thing, but I'm saying more
specifically when it comes to, uh, asian people interacting with black and, uh, brown people.
Olivia: Yeah. It's a little bit different on the east coast, but. Yeah, I understand.
O'Neil: Yeah. All right, cool. Uh, so that was my number four take. We're getting dubious.
Olivia: Yeah. The most dubious is adding market price.
Tyler: That's so funny.
Olivia: Oh, what are we doing? What are we doing?
O'Neil: Dubious. Tyler, give us number five.
Olivia: What's your worst one?
Tyler: Having expectations at work is okay. Having expectations for you at work is okay. People I
work with. Hang on. I think it is. Let me explain.
O'Neil: Mhm.
Tyler: I feel like there's this mentality, particularly among our generation. This is not for older
generations. This is specifically a GEN Z thing, where when you're at work and they ask you to
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Tyler: do a lot, like, they have a lot of expectations for what you are expected to do. People are
like, ugh, um, I'm capitalism. Uh, you know, sure, sure, you have a job. I. Here's the problem, is,
I think you two both agree with me on this, but I know so many.
O'Neil: Tyler, I would say. I would say, honestly, the take that you hold that that is a broader
issue is more controversial than that actual take. I don't think that take is controversial. I
think that your outlook on that take is controversial. You know what I'm saying? I don't.
Tyler: I think you should be. I think you should be expect. If you have a job, you should do the.
Do the expectations of that job without complaint. You took the job.
O'Neil: I don't.
Tyler: Is that the take?
Olivia: Is that the hot take?
Tyler: I'm workshopping this. I'm trying to, you know, I didn't want to do another artist or
something.
Olivia: Unjust and not in your, like, that part is, uh.
Tyler: Of course, you know, everyone deserves. We deserve more maternity leave. We deserve more
days off. Ah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying. When you're at work.
Olivia: At work.
O'Neil: Do you think that's a controversial take? Is more controversial?
Olivia: Yeah, I don't think that's controversial.
O'Neil: What you're alluding to is sort of the lazy, uh, generation take. More so than the. More so
than the actual, uh, take that, you know, doing your job description is bad.
Olivia: Yeah. Like, we're three people who have to work for a living. Like, really work for a
living. So, like, we get it. Uh, so it's like, you know, I.
Tyler: Think, you know, I can. I can swap it. I can go to. I can go. I can pivot if you need.
If you think that one's a free.
Olivia: But you can take a free sample of that. Uh, we're offering those free. Buy one, get one. If
you offer a dubious idea, we give you a free. You should be working at work.
Tyler: Now, here's the thing. Can I bring something that I don't 100% believe, or does it have to
be something that I fully 100% believe?
Olivia: Well, just because you have to kind.
O'Neil: Of just bring it, and then we'll chop off. We'll. We'll cut the price depending on what
part of it you believe.
Olivia: Yeah. There you go.
Tyler: Olivia's gonna get so mad at me for this. This one might ruin. I'm not gonna say this one
might ruin all our friendships.
O'Neil: No, let's do it. Fuck it. Let's go.
Tyler: Uh, I'm going into this knowing that I telling you guys that I don't fully, 100% believe
this, but it's okay.
O'Neil: Cowards.
Olivia: What's the thing, Tyler?
O'Neil: Here we go. Here we go.
Tyler: Business boy. Business boycotts are stupid. For really, really big businesses, people often
don't have a choice. And, uh, my $5 isn't actually going to change anything.
O'Neil: That's it. That's it. This is a good take. This is a good controversy. 500.
Tyler: No, 10,000. Again, I don't fully believe this, but there's part of judicial.
O'Neil: No, let's adjudicate this. Let's adjudicate this because this is real. Let's adjudicate
this because this is real. There is an inherent privilege that comes with a boycott. That is true.
Olivia: Yes, I agree.
O'Neil: And businesses are built upon preying on the lack of privilege.
Olivia: Yes.
O'Neil: So a boycott wouldn't always necessarily work. Here's my businesses. Mhm.
Tyler: A boycott. Boycotts absolutely work and they should work. Should we 100% boycott McDonald's
for feeding the IDF? Absolutely.
O'Neil: Mhm.
Tyler: You say that it's actually working. I have not. I'm unfamiliar. Maybe this one is
working. But I see so often people on Instagram being like, boycott gap for this random thing they
did when they. You know what I mean? And I'm like, this isn't doing anything. This is not organized
enough to fucking matter. You're just. You know what I mean?
Like, a boycott has to be extremely organized to work. Yeah, I'm for boycott the ones that we're
working. Everyone needs to chill. When. When I go to chicken sandwich at, uh, chick fil a. If there
was an organized boycott, like, a truly organized one, where there was a lot of people doing it all
at once, not just, like, randomly in general, and people have weird feelings about it, then I would
be a part of it. But I'm not going to not get a chicken sandwich. You know what I mean? Does that
make sense? I want to do some if I'm only going to do it. If it matter, if it's. If I think, if
it's actually going to affect things, does that make. Okay, you know?
Olivia: Yeah, yeah. I can understand.
O'Neil: I have a rebuttal. But first, I want. This is a. This is juicy. This is dubious and juicy.
I want to give this a controversy rating before I give you my rebuttal. And then we can haggle
prize.
Olivia: Yeah.
O'Neil: Olivia, what are you thinking for this? For controversy? I'm not saying this is the most
controversial take in the world.
Olivia: I put it in the two or threes.
O'Neil: Two or three hundred s. I would say 300.
Olivia: 300? Okay.
O'Neil: I would say 300 for this take.
Olivia: Yeah.
Tyler: Okay. I thought this was gonna be a lot spicier.
Olivia: No, just because I don't think in terms of, like, the privilege thing
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Olivia: and, like, if it's an organized boycott. So, like, for right now, like, I'm following,
like, boycott lists that are, like, a specific group that is, like, organizing these. And, like, I
don't really. There are a lot of other boycotts that I am not. Like, I do very, like, concentrated
boycotts when I decide to do them.
Tyler: Sure.
Olivia: And, like, one of the ones that I have been boycotting even before all this stuff is
starbucks, just because of their union busting policies. And also their shit is trash.
Tyler: Yeah.
O'Neil: Also their, um, coffee is trash.
Olivia: And, like, so I don't be doing that. And, like, so,
Tyler: no, if you're.
Tyler: I'm fully. I'm fully with. If you're personally, like, I can.
Olivia: And, like, I understand the, like, especially if you have, like, food deserts and, like,
stuff like that. Like, boycotts, there are, like, you know, resource stuff. Like.
Tyler: But, like, when I get out of. People get the restaurant about people at 01:00 a.m. um.
Olivia: Yeah.
Tyler: And I know I don't have any food at home. I'm gonna stop at McDonald's. I'm sorry.
Olivia: That's perfectly reasonable. That's perfectly reasonable.
O'Neil: I will say, tyler, the reason why unorganized boycotts still affect is because it causes a
PR issue, and that costs the company money to. Sure, okay. Sure. And so that's where the power of
an unorganized boycott still has an effect, is they have to counteract that with pr, which.
Olivia: So, like, constantly, like, chick fil a is trying to have this, like, pass on these, like,
commercials where they're, like, two or three commercials in one commercial blog manager who's,
like, sitting on a couch, like, our community a. Chick fil a. And I'm like, you. You want to erase
gay people, do you not? Sorry. Cow and chicken ads on the billboards. You want to erase gay people?
O'Neil: Okay, cool. I like this. I like this.
Olivia: So, basically, like, for me, like, even if it is, like, an un organized boycott, for me,
like, spending money at chick fil a, it's like, okay, cool. Um, so here's $5. Can you shoot me in
the face? I'm giving you. Actually, I'm giving you here $1 for every one of your fingers that you
curl into a fist and then punch me in the face with. No.
O'Neil: Okay, cool. Yeah, but that's. That's a. That's a value add, for sure. Liver.
Tyler: Ah.
O'Neil: Number one.
Olivia: Holiday Inn.
O'Neil: Yep.
Olivia: This is talked about. Yes, there is a blackface. Yes, I will. Holiday Inn Abraham scene.
O'Neil: Yep.
Olivia: Oh, it's in color. No, I don't want to watch it in color. Hold on.
O'Neil: Boise.
Olivia: Oh. Oh. Oh, it's in color. Oh, no.
Tyler: Olivia sees things in black and white, you know, man.
O'Neil: Okay. Uh, hey, Olivia. This is a whole minstrel show.
Olivia: Yeah.
Bing Crosby (Recording): Um, a tiny baby boy was born. Abraham. Abraham. When he growed up, this
tiny babe, folks all called him honest Abe Abraham. Uh, Abraham. In 1860, he became the 16th
President, and now he's in the hall of fame.
O'Neil: Um, give us the. Give us the breakdown. Give us the context.
Olivia: Okay. So the context of why this scene is important in the actual, like, plot of the movie
is essentially there. Uh, so Bing Crosby, who's the main guy who's singing here in the film, uh, he
plays an inn owner who has basically been, like, kicked out of show business. He thought that,
like, becoming a farmer would be, like, an easy way to, like, make the rest of his life and, like,
not have to work every day. And then he ends up opening his farm into an inn that is only open on
holidays. And at this point, we still celebrated. This is the forties. We still celebrated
Lincoln's birthday and Washington's birthday before we just decided president's day all at once.
We'll do it at once. So his former, like, performance partner, played by Fred Astaire, came in on
New Year's Eve, shit faced, and started dancing with basically this guy's girlfriend. And she's a
very talented dancer. And so to disguise her from Ted being able to figure out who she is and take
her away like he did with. With the previous girl. Cause there's history here.
They decide to do the entire Abraham, like, the entire Lincoln's birthday performance in blackface
to disguise her from the other guy.
O'Neil: Okay.
Olivia: I was hoping context of this.
O'Neil: Oliver, can I tell you, I was holding out hope that there was some sort of commentary.
Olivia: No, not at all. It is just a blackface scene.
O'Neil: Olivia. This is, like, a 600. My guy.
Olivia: Yeah, no, I completely understand. And it's really bad. Like. And also there, he does have,
like, a housekeeper at the inn, and her name is. They just call her Mamie. They, like, it's. It's
really bad.
O'Neil: Yeah, this is the worst.
Tyler: Okay,
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Tyler: well, yeah, I was about to be like, well, maybe it's not that. Maybe it's like, it's not
hurting anybody to watch it. And then I was like, okay, here's the thing.
Olivia: So on television, they normally cut this scene so it makes the movie make less sense. But
most people are like, that's where the black scene scene goes in and like. Yeah. So they cut it
from. What's it called it to not have blackface in it. Um, so my family
watches this every Christmas. This is a Christmas movie for us because it is primarily a Christmas
holiday movie.
Tyler: Christmas time,
Olivia: when it is not what it is.
O'Neil: Now, how you can get in budget, because this is rough.
Tyler: Yeah, you're gonna have to. Yeah. This is. You're not keeping it under budget?
Olivia: Because I was doing pretty okay in terms of lower numbers. Yeah, but this one's really bad.
Like, this one's, like, fully 600. 700.
O'Neil: Okay. Yeah.
Olivia: Uh, no, it's really bad. It's really exceptionally bad. That's why I brought it.
O'Neil: That's the long and short of it.
Olivia: 600. It's truly atrocious.
Tyler: Yeah, I think 600. Yeah.
Olivia: That's fair. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Because it's not just two people. It's the entire. It's the
entire band. And serving staff are also black, at.
Tyler: Least in 16 candles. Long Duk dong was played by someone from an asian man. Yeah. Chinese
man.
Olivia: Chinese man. Yeah.
Tyler: No, and it wasn't just, like Dan Aykroyd with his eyes pulled back or whatever.
Olivia: It's so bad looking at it.
Tyler: It's really bad, Olivia. It's really bad.
O'Neil: This is really bad. Honestly, Olivia, I'm feeling more like 650. Let me just bump it up to
650.
Tyler: I'm gonna watch it. I need to watch this.
O'Neil: No, Tyler, we don't have time. We don't time, Tyler, let's. Let's move on. All right, I got
my number. Five. Are you guys ready for my number? Please join me at the top page. All right.
Please join me here as I unveil, uh, my number. 5911 jokes. How much. How much is gonna cost? Guys,
there's been a lot of time. You know, um, I've bleeped it from previous episodes or cut it
completely, but sometimes it's funny. Like I agree out of context, especially if you're just.
Tyler: If you're just.
O'Neil: If you're not joking about using to joke about it.
Olivia: There was a brief period of time where it wasn't funny, and it has been funny since that
period ended. Yeah, but it depends.
O'Neil: Tragedy plus time equals comedy, guys. Has it been. I guess that's the real question.
Hasn't been enough time.
Tyler: There has never been a type of joke that is more dependent on who is in the room.
Olivia: Yes.
O'Neil: That's fair.
Olivia: Yeah, absolutely.
Tyler: It's the three of us, and we're chilling, and none of us have any connection to New York in
the year 2001.
Olivia: Or Boston.
Tyler: Very funny. Or Boston. Very funny.
Olivia: Very funny.
Tyler: If any, uh, many of our friends. We went to college in Boston. Many of our friends know
people who died if they are in the room. You cannot make those jokes.
Olivia: Yeah, no. Like, I can't make those jokes on, like, any. Any platform at all.
Tyler: Now, here's the thing for.
O'Neil: Is it different if I'm not joking about the event itself, but I'm using the event to make a
joke?
Olivia: Zachary. That's different. I think that falls under the umbrella.
Tyler: But, like, falls into the umbrella.
Olivia: Here's the thing. So, like, when we lost a hot seat. When we lost the hot seat game and
O'Neil tried to make me post a 911 meme, like a Barbie 911 meme, I was not on board because, again,
a lot of old people follow me. My parents generation, who did have friends who died on the planes.
Like, I had, like, one of my friends, like, growing up, her dad was working at the World Trade
center. Like, so it's. It's not great. And, like, again, I do kind of. We do make the jokes in the
apartment. Jonah grew up in New York City, and, like, his neighborhood was in the dust cloud. So,
like, he does have to get checked because, like, for cancer, because of 911. Like, when he turns,
like, 35, 45, like, whatever, he has to go and, like, get check to be like. Cause I was in the
blast zone, basically. So, like, okay, I think they are funny depending on what angle you're taking
it from. Again, like, with any joke. Cause you can make literally the most heinous crime hilarious
if you do it right.
O'Neil: If you do it well, that's.
Tyler: Here's the thing. A 911 joke could be a zero or it could be a 10,000. It's entirely
dependent on who is there.
Olivia: Yeah, m on, um, the joke and who is in the room.
Tyler: I don't actually know how to price this. This one is literally marked market price. This one
is. But it's the market? This is the actual definition of market price. M so dependent on the
market.
O'Neil: Give me. Give me a Podcast. Podcast, Podcast. Rosa parks memorial. Bizarre ideas cost here.
Tyler: So you're saying.
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O'Neil: I'm saying again. Okay, let me. Joking about the event. Yeah, using the event. Uh, the one
I cut from our earlier episodes.
Olivia: So it's holidays. Yeah, that one. That was a good.
Tyler: That one might have flown, because that was a good joke. Like, what's your favorite holiday?
Just so everyone knows. Just so everyone knows what that joke was. O'Neil, uh, while we were doing
the holiday, the holiday pitch, it's because we.
O'Neil: Were shopping the show. I cut.
Olivia: Play the bit. O'Neil just put the bid in. Uh, you guys know Christmas.
O'Neil: I heard of her.
Olivia: You guys know Halloween coming out?
Tyler: Is that the one with the Skellington?
Olivia: This episode comes out, you know, Valentine's Day.
O'Neil: Valentine's Day.
Olivia: Valentine's Day. We know that one.
O'Neil: The saints. What? The saint of.
Olivia: What if I told you there are some wackier holidays that are celebrated around the world?
O'Neil: Arbor day.
Olivia: Crazier.
Tyler: President's day, even more bananas.
Olivia: I'm talking about 911. Run. Your O'Neil Henry cancelled.
Tyler: We were arguing about. Olivia said, what's your favorite holiday? I said, thanksgiving. Uh,
and then O'Neil said, 911, which is objectively funny and bad.
O'Neil: Not terrible, but funny.
Olivia: Funny and terrible. I'm, uh, gonna say 911 jokes are funny.
Tyler: Okay, so here's the context for the cost. Olivia. Here's what I'm doing. Uh, a joke on this
Podcast.
Olivia: Yes. That is.
Tyler: You know what I mean? Like, saying that joke. How much did that joke cost? Is literally
bare. Really? A hundred?
O'Neil: Really? Okay. Yeah, I'll take it.
Tyler: I'm maybe 150. I give it to. I don't know. I think it's a little worse. I think it's a
little worse than you think.
Olivia: Okay. All right. Yeah.
Tyler: I think we're just. We're just jaded GEN Z! GEN Z! GEN Z kids who don't remember it. You
know what I mean? Mean, yeah. This is like kids in the fifties being like, fucking Pearl harbor.
Olivia: How bad was the war?
Tyler: How bad was the. How bad could the war be? Idiot. And then they had to go to Vietnam.
Olivia: But here's the thing.
Tyler: This is the hubris before our fall.
Olivia: But I do have, like. I have many pictures. These are edits that I've made of our cat, of
one of our cats in terrible historical pictures. One of them is. He is one of the planes. The other
one, he is in the car in Dallas with JFK.
Tyler: JFK is far enough.
Olivia: When did JFK jokes become funny, then? We can probably extrapolate that, too.
Tyler: Uh, now, here's the thing. JFK jokes. I feel like the JFK assassination is way less bad than
911. I feel like. You know what I mean?
Olivia: Way less.
O'Neil: People dogged.
Tyler: Like, people were sad. My grandparents will be like.
O'Neil: You can't. You can't exactly make. Because we do make Covid jokes all the time, willy
nilly. No cost.
Olivia: Yeah, but that's. We live that. We. We earned that.
O'Neil: That's fair. That's fair. That's our trauma, that we get some. That's fair. That's fair.
I'll take that. Um. Um. Okay, cool. Then, uh, I'll take the 200. Very well. For my controversy.
Olivia: For Podcast. Podcast. Podcast 911 jokes.
O'Neil: Yeah, sure. What if I just want it, uh, uh, general, but not joking about it. It, uh, as
not joking about the event itself, but using the event as a joke.
Tyler: In what way?
O'Neil: I'm Wakanda right now. I thought this was gonna cost me way more.
Tyler: In what way? That's the problem among us. I don't really give a shit. But, like, there are
some people who really. It really matters. You know what I mean? Like, you will.
O'Neil: You could leave it Podcast. I'll leave it Podcast if you like.
Olivia: Sorry. If, like, oh, my brother was in Desert Storm. Maybe not.
O'Neil: That's fair. I'll leave it context list. And on this Podcast, $200.
Tyler: Yeah. Because it really does, uh, that is the definition of a market price controversy.
Olivia: Let's track up what we got here.
O'Neil: All right, guys, let's. Let's take it. Let's take the time to add up our total value.
Olivia: Did I have the highest cost of any single one thing?
Tyler: Yes.
Olivia: Yes, yes.
O'Neil: Definitely.
Olivia: What a fucking thought, guys.
O'Neil: I fully expected to have the highest, like, to be way over indexed and, uh, I don't even
need to haggle for my.
Olivia: I really was not expecting the silver thing to be as contentious as it was. I really didn't
think it was that big a deal.
Tyler: I'm really not that far over. I'm over. I'm not that bad over. I thought I was going to be
like, really?
Olivia: I'm already over with the top two. With my top two.
Tyler: Hang on. You're way under. But that's the thing. The asian people, white people think we
gave it market, which doesn't actually mean anything. Do we need to give that a number? The problem
is that Olivia and I can't give that a number. Like, I can't.
O'Neil: Hmm.
Tyler: Let me weigh in on the way that asian people are.
Olivia: Race politics.
Tyler: Yeah, race politics.
O'Neil: Okay, well, let's see here. I have.
Tyler: Let's compare it to other takes.
O'Neil: Yes.
Tyler: How spicy is it? Not necessarily. How bad is it?
O'Neil: Damn, you're
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O'Neil: weight. You're.
Tyler: You're almost double.
Olivia: I overspent. I overspent. I didn't know how much my wares are gonna be.
O'Neil: We'll still go back to mine. We'll do mine last.
Tyler: Hang on. Is asian people equal white people hotter than wanting to just listen to David
Bowie's China girl?
O'Neil: That's true. Well, okay, let's. Let's talk this. Let's. Let's go through yours first,
Tyler. Cause I think we can. I think we can make some adjustments and make some calls. What are you
at?
Tyler: Total one? Uh, uh, 1355.
O'Neil: Okay, so you're.
Tyler: I'm like, 4400 over. Yeah.
O'Neil: So could you just never listen to David Bowie's China girl again?
Tyler: I could definitely do that. I think so.
O'Neil: And then you'd be fine.
Tyler: Let's dance isn't a great album beyond the singles anyway, so I could just listen to, you
know, let's dance and.
O'Neil: I mean, that's what you want to do. All right, Tyler, give us. Give us. Like, do you want
to haggle for any of these? Do you want to give us a red pot ration for here. Your David Bowie
China girl?
Tyler: I think it's not as bad as long duck dong. That's my hot take. I think long duck
dong is way worse.
O'Neil: Completely honest. Like, after thinking about it for a little bit, the lyrics did throw me.
The lyrics are pretty rough.
Tyler: The lyrics are rough. But it's. It's a. It's a very.
O'Neil: But the intention is not necessarily anti white savior. The voice from the $100.
Tyler: But, uh, I don't even love doing. You're like, you're.
Olivia: No. I could bring. I could definitely go down.
O'Neil: I'm going to go down to 3323. 20.
Tyler: I think we might have over. It's in after every.
Olivia: What was coming.
O'Neil: Only listening to it. Okay, here's the thing, Tyler. I'll give it to you for three. Even if
you just promise to never promote the song.
Tyler: Never. I would never promote the song.
O'Neil: Then just never talk about the song.
Tyler: That's not going on. It's just. I won't even click on it. If it comes up in a shuffle, just
be like, oh, yeah, okay, you.
O'Neil: Know, I'll give it to you. I'll give you two. Two. 8280.
Olivia: I agree with that. Yeah, it's honestly not that bad, considering we started with. I'm
turning japanese.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: Under market value, honestly.
O'Neil: Okay, now, so what are you at now, Tyler?
Tyler: Uh, what was it? What was it? 420 before. So. -140. I'm at 1215.
O'Neil: So you got some work to do, Tyler. Could I, uh-huh.
Tyler: Listen, as evidence from our last podcast, could I bring a book report to the next Podcast
on asian people and white people? No, I was gonna say on, uh, civil rights.
Civil rights leaders.
O'Neil: I don't know.
Olivia: Make up for which one.
O'Neil: I don't think it works. Yeah, I don't think it makes sense for any of your choices.
Tyler: Gotcha. Gotcha. In that case, boycotts don't. Does that mean I need to, like, what's the
opposite of kill Bill? Like, a Kelly Reichert movie? Like a really quiet, like, feminist critique?
Olivia: I mean, you can probably watch just any interview with Uma Thurman afterwards.
O'Neil: How about this, Tyler? How has your opinion changed on the boycotts don't work.
Tyler: Oh, man.
O'Neil: Can you bring us. Can you bring us a well thought out essay?
Tyler: Well, I don't want to write an essay, O'Neil. I'll just change my opinion.
O'Neil: Well, can you change your opinion?
Tyler: Listen, the kids are lazy these days, and by the kids, I mean me.
Olivia: Listen, there's no expectations here.
Tyler: Listen, how about this? I. That won't even get me there, will it? Fuck.
O'Neil: Get you. Get you. Look up. Let's. We'll do some research. How about this? You have to read
a book on the importance of boycotts, and then if your opinion. Still a whole book, and if your
opinion doesn't change, then you get to keep that opinion, and then we'll call it an even. What are
you at right now?
Tyler: I'm at 1215.
O'Neil: 1215. Yeah, we'll call it a 315. Er, if you read a whole book. To bring you right to
budget.
Tyler: Hang on. Let's decide what book it is.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: Boycott blues. How Rosa parks inspired a nation.
O'Neil: Well, no, we need to be contemporary. We need some contemporary.
Olivia: Uh, this is from 2021. Oh, it's a picture book.
Tyler: How do we feel about the book against apartheid? The case for boycotting israeli
universities? Too spicy.
Olivia: Uh, how about fight like hell the untold history of american labor?
Tyler: That feels right.
O'Neil: Okay, well, I don't know if we can quite. Quite give you a specific one right now. Cause I
don't have time to do some actual research on it, but we find a book that talks about the
importance m of modern boycotts in America. Okay, we'll give you that.
Olivia: Ruin a boycott. How? A grassroots coalition fought cores and remade american
consumer activism.
O'Neil: Yeah, something along that lines. I don't. I didn't fully. What you said because he cut out
buying power.
Olivia: A history of consumer activism. Consumer activism in America. I'll send you this list.
Tyler: All right, fine. I'll take that if it's the only way. I don't think there's another option.
For
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Tyler: me, other than don't listen to, don't stop watching Formula One, which I'm not going to do.
O'Neil: Exactly.
Olivia: I have to close the blackface scene. Hold on.
O'Neil: So I'm fine settling there for you.
Olivia: So I'm 800 controversy coins over bud.
Tyler: Oh, my God. Olivia.
O'Neil: That's rough. Olivia. That's really like me.
Olivia: Huh? Huh?
Tyler: I would have got him.
O'Neil: I did. I fully thought it was going to be me. I thought I was going to have to put down
some heavy rep.
Olivia: I don't, I don't steal things from restaurants anymore. I haven't done it.
O'Neil: Yes. That's one thing.
Olivia: And I don't do it if you.
Tyler: Never do it again.
Olivia: Three.
O'Neil: Uh, no, no, no. We can cut the full 475 if you never do.
Tyler: We have to cut the 475 if you bring that salt and pepper shaker back to that restaurant.
O'Neil: Actually, yeah. If you do some good works, you got to do some good works. Maybe not that
restaurant, but you got to do some good works.
Olivia: I got to think about where those fucking cell shakers are because I know both. My sister
had both.
Tyler: I don't know.
O'Neil: This is the thing. This is a going forward thing. This is always going to be. So if you
just never steal again, we'll cut the 475.
Olivia: Love that. I'm changed, man. I'll never steal again. I'll never thief again.
O'Neil: Okay, good. So, uh, no more stealing.
Olivia: So I can go ahead and take 475 off my total.
O'Neil: Mhm. Love.
Olivia: That's doable. Mine is 475 plus 475.
O'Neil: Cause you're totaling up to 900. Okay. All right. So you're still at.
Olivia: I have 1000. So I have 325. I can either never watch 16 candles again and be under.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: Or extolled or figure out a version that I can watch Hmm Holiday Inn that does not have
blackface.
Tyler: That's what I was about to say. What if from now on, you only watch the tv version where the
blackface is cut out of Holiday Inn, but.
O'Neil: You have to get your family to do it, too. That's the thing.
Olivia: You said this is with your family gonna be.
Tyler: They want to. They watch it with the. But can I just be. They watch it with the blackface
and.
Olivia: They'Re like, it's on dvd. We watch it on tv, and every year we go because we know that's.
O'Neil: Not, but it's not exciting. Here's the problem. Here's the real problem with it. And
honestly, I'm feeling like 750. There's. You've got new, you got a new generation in your
household.
Tyler: You gotta cut, you have to end the generational. And these. These. These traumatic
generational traditions.
O'Neil: Yeah, yeah. I'm bumping up to 750 because you're watching.
Tyler: Yeah, no, I'm with O'Neil. I'm with O'Neil. I forgot about the child. You're exposing a
child to this? You can't. They're supposed to be better than us, Olivia. They're supposed to be
better than us children.
Olivia: Okay, let me add the children total right now. Okay. So literally.
Tyler: So bad, Olivia, you can't do it anymore.
Olivia: So bad. But, like, it's tradition.
O'Neil: But, I mean, you could boycott it yourself. Like, boycott doing it with your family.
Olivia: I mean, m. We also will watch it on tv without the. What's it called? We're not, like, oh,
it has to be that version. It's just the dvd that we own, because, again, we're not giving the
company any more money. And, like, I think they do stream it with the blackface scene. I think they
do stream it with the blackface scene, but we don't pay for it every year because we already own a
physical copy of it that we bought in the two thousands.
O'Neil: Well, that's. That. You. They make more money off of that physical copy than they ever will
on stream.
Olivia: It was. Again, we're not paying to rent it or buy it from a streaming service now.
O'Neil: Still, uh, dubious. Still dubious.
Olivia: I know. No, I know. I'm not. Again, I know it's bad. That's.
O'Neil: Because here's the issue. Here's the. Here's the actual issue. It's not that you're giving
them money. That's actually a non factor in this. It's the fact that you're watching it as a family
every year, giving it to every year, and giving it to.
Olivia: The next multiple times a year.
Tyler: You have to end them. You have to end the generational.
O'Neil: Yeah. So that's what.
Olivia: If you want to do a jitter. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Here's the thing. Because
Holiday Inn was recently on Broadway again, starring Corbin blue of high school musical fame.
O'Neil: Okay?
Olivia: Okay. So there is not a pro shot of it.
O'Neil: Mm hmm.
Olivia: Would. Would it be okay to watch a bootleg version of the Broadway ver. Of the Broadway
production, to not watch the original one from the forties?
O'Neil: Okay. You will still get some controversy coins for that. But it was significantly lower.
Olivia: There are no other good versions of it. There are no, like, high production value versions
that are filmed. Well, yeah, you can.
O'Neil: You could do that, theoretically, because you would still get controversy coin for it, but
it would be significantly less.
Olivia: Okay, so, like, versus watching a bootleg production.
O'Neil: One versus 75 versus
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O'Neil: the safe.
Olivia: I'll take it. I will fucking take it.
O'Neil: Yeah, but you have to get your. Yeah, you can no longer watch the original.
Olivia: I will be watching the original with my family.
O'Neil: Okay, good.
Olivia: I'll just be watching that version to get my fix.
O'Neil: Okay, cool.
Olivia: Okay, so I can now erase. So. Okay, we decided.
Tyler: Wait, I have to read a whole book, and Olivia just gets to be like, m. I'll just watch the
modern cool version. Well.
O'Neil: Cause you want to keep on doing the things.
Tyler: So does Olivia. Olivia wants to keep watching.
Olivia: Yeah, but I can watch the worst version.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: The art is suffering.
Tyler: It's fair.
Olivia: The quality. The quality suffers for the big, bad quality that it has. Please tell me I
said that to the ripe group chat. Okay, I did. Um, because I would have loved to have just sent
books on boycotts to my parents. Oh, my God, they filmed it. Oh, they filmed it.
O'Neil: Perfect.
Olivia: Let's go. I'd never have to watch the other.
O'Neil: And you'll be good. Um, yeah. If you could pay for that, then that'll. That'll get you plus
600.
Olivia: Knock off what's called entirely. So it's still a hundred for watching it with its.
O'Neil: I think it's just because you're. Because you're not stopping your family for watching it.
Olivia: Yeah. No. So I still am paying 150 for that.
O'Neil: Yeah.
Olivia: Okay. But I do. I do lose 600 on that one. Love it. Fantastic. I'm under budget. I
don't have to hang anymore. I can be a terrible person in all of the respects.
O'Neil: Well, guys, thank you for joining.
Tyler: Wait, hang on, hang on, hang on.
O'Neil: Oh, yeah. Sorry. We have to adjudicate mine.
Tyler: Oh, Neil, I know you're on. I know you're technically under, but that's just because market
price has no price. This one is definitely controversial in a way that Olivia and I cannot put an
exact number on. So might I make a suggestion?
O'Neil: Yes. Give it. Give it to me. I'm willing.
Tyler: I want a detailed explanation of this take. I want facts and figures. I want an essay. I
want personal anecdotes. I want a research based explanation of this. Because you're allowed to
have this take. I just need to be explained.
O'Neil: Okay. Yes, I will. That will be my reparations is three pages. Uh, I will. I will do three
to five.
Tyler: Yeah, I'll take that 100%. You're allowed to have this take.
O'Neil: I just need facts with.
Tyler: Because I don't know if it's wrong, but if you bring me proof then it's not a problem, you
know?
O'Neil: Yep.
Olivia: Oh, my God. And fucking Bryce pinkham is in the new version. Let's go, baby. Oh, this is
too good. He's a phenomenal actor.
O'Neil: So let's just recap everything and, uh, close out. So, Tyler, you want to tell us how your
adventures will be going forward?
Tyler: Going forward? Uh, I will be reading, uh, a book on boycotts, and, um, I will never actively
listen to David bowie's china girl and not watch the music video.
O'Neil: Yeah, you can listen to it. You just can't promote it and can't watch, uh, the music video,
but you can listen to turning japanese by the vapors. You can continue to watch Formula one and
support them as you do. You can't watch kill bill. Get your movie history in there, and, uh, we'll
see how your take on boycotts don't work goes after you read that book.
Tyler: I know boycotts work. Here's the thing. I know boycotts work. I'm just of the opinion that
unorganized.
O'Neil: I'll put. I'll add that.
Tyler: Yes.
O'Neil: Unorganized boycotts.
Tyler: Yeah.
O'Neil: Okay. Liver. Or should I do try. Go. Yeah. Um, so I do get to listen to the new Kanye diss
track against Drake. I actually have a little bit of extra spending money, so maybe I'll toss in
his old diss track from Drake to on Drake, too. I do get to eat McDonald's. Uh, only spending
points. I do get to watch the Jonathan majors movies. Actually, since I have enough money, I'll
just go ahead and keep the ant man.
Tyler: Um, I don't know if I'll ever watch Ant man, but it's nice to have the option.
O'Neil: But it's nice to be able to have it. Just in case I want to go back and see Paul Rudd's
good work. I get to have a more nuanced and research take on my asian people equals white people
viewpoint point. Um, and I get to make 911 jokes, but only on this podcast and only to you. Great.
Fantastic. And, Olivia, phenomenal.
Olivia: Okay, so I will no longer be stealing silverware or other accoutrements from restaurants.
O'Neil: Stop.
Olivia: And, uh, I will no longer be watching the 1942 version of Holiday Inn and will instead be
purchasing the 2017 production starring Corbin Blue and Bryce Pinkham, who are both wonderful
actors, even, uh, though I might have to subscribe to Broadway HD. Who knows? It's a full stage
production. I get to pay for it. So I'm supporting Broadway actors, and, uh, but unfortunately, I
can't stop my family from watching the other version. But I can just decide to not watch that
version.
O'Neil: Yeah, try to get your nieces and nephews on them on the Broadway.
Olivia: I'll get Michael and indie on the, like,
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Olivia: the new version.
O'Neil: Yeah. And then get him hooked.
Olivia: Us nasty little, like, you know, retroactive. What's going on?
Tyler: These are indeed the nasty old folk.
Olivia: The nasty little old folks. You can watch anything. Um, I feel like I, like, again, I am
under budget with just those two because they were the most egregious.
O'Neil: Uh, 16 candles for your family.
Olivia: Yeah, I feel like I need to watch something on, like, aapi, like, you know, stereotypes and
media watch bamboozled.
Tyler: How is that?
O'Neil: Oh, yeah, that's actually good.
Olivia: Okay. Okay. Yeah, I will write it down henceforth.
O'Neil: Um, yeah. And you get to continue american fiction before.
Tyler: American fiction.
O'Neil: Yeah. Great. Well, thank you for joining us today at the bazaar, as always, you can find
more of our wares at website. Website. So enjoy. Uh, we'll see you guys next week with another pop
up bod. Thank you for joining us.
Olivia: You, our.
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